Why is it so hard to find a good Web desktop?

I keep hoping for a really great online Web desktop.  All I really want from one is a *good* RSS reading experience, the ability to see my Gmail account, and a search box.  I basically want a personalized online newspaper.  That’s *it*.  That seems pretty basic, but the experience I’ve had with them is just well, very disappointing.  You’d think someone would have gotten it right by now, but apparently it’s harder to do than I would I have thought.

Here are the ones I’ve tried, and why I don’t like them:

  • Google personalized homepage – Feeds break when you add more than about five feeds on a page
  • NetVibes – Gets very sluggish when you add more than about five feeds per page, and breaks with lots of nasty Javascript errors
  • My Yahoo! – Doesn’t display feed content in the portal, requires you to go out to the site itself
  • Goowy – Flash sites are too slow for me, and I don’t like the layout it constrains you to
  • Windows Live – Again, I can’t read the entire post in the portal itself.  If they fix this, however, I’d switch to this site in a heartbeat.

And, what’s with the lack of OPML support from just about everybody?  Is this a blatant attempt to lock me into the service?  (Interestingly, Microsoft Live doesn’t like Google Reader’s OPML feed, but I haven’t spent any time looking at either so I’m not sure which one isn’t conforming to standards.  Google would be my first guess.)

I also don’t want to use a brand new, small player, because I have to supply these services with some sensitive information (my email login and password, for example).  And I don’t want to risk spending a few hours building a nice homepage only to have the vendor go out of business next month (which brings up an interesting point, which is that none of these guys have a business model to write home about). 

I guess the old adage "if you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself" may apply. 

Oh, and one more thing.  Is it so hard to find out my location from my IP address?  Why do all these places show me the weather for Happy, TX or Seattle, WA when I live in Chicago, and that’s obviously where my IP is coming from?  Little touches like this would go a long way to making a more enjoyable end-user experience.

I just found a post by Richard McManus reviewing other feed readers out there, although he doesn’t go into much depth about the online ones that I’m looking for.

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  • http://www.pageflakes.com Ole

    Pageflakes (www.pageflakes.com) is missing in that list. We actually do have OPML support, too. And a nice sharing feature to invite friends to use a page jointly.

    Cheers
    Ole

  • http://profile.typekey.com/jasonkolb/ jasonkolb

    Thanks Ole, I'll check it out!

  • http://xmlhacker.com M. David Peterson

    Hi Jason,

    An interesting post in many regards… The GlobalClip demo that you linked to a while back (which is how I found your blog via Technorati) is shaping up further, and between http://ChannelXML.com and http://webtop.name (current returns an empty directory file), all will be coming together to form, well… a Webtop that acts like (see your post for the rest… Basically, the description of the "collision" and your description above mirror each other.)

    The thing about webtop.name is that it's focused on providing a community-based, community-developed, community-supported, and ad-free, foundation — you host your own webtop on your own machine, and as long as your willing to allow propogation of community-rated content (using BitTorrent as a decentralized syncronization engine), then you can register and use a yourname.webtop.name of which you can then allow public access to various pieces such that you can access your own webtop while out and about (traveling, mobile phone, etc…)

    The catch? The above requirements… All software is licensed under CC:by-sa, so if you add something to the mix, then it must be licensed under the same license.

    In essence, this is about us geeks taking back our own internet, and doing so on our own terms…

    This will also be tied into my viberavetions project ( I say my, but in reality theres about seven of us actively involved in the development.) See https://viberavetions.com and click "stay tuned" to learn more about what its about.

    viberavetions has attached to it another open source, open content, open distribution project attached to it called viberating, which will be the rating side of the webtop project. Same deal… The ratings and the underlying software is licensed under CC:by-sa… The actual content will be channeled through viberating.info using the same bittorrent means of keeping things decentrally syncronized.

    I should point out that viberavetions does have a for-profit focus, but the focus is on localized advertising, and the content is focused on being served via a localized server of which each community can attach to propogate information. The ad engine is being built around an open disclosure model… There's a 14% rate for using the advertising engine and network, and coupled with a localized approach to advertising (meaning Mom and Pop hamburger joints, hardware stores, etc… turning the advertising back towards the communities in which we all live and the real retail stores in which we all purchase our items of interest from, etc…), 86% goes back to those in whom hosted the content in which the ads were served — e.g. your blog, or a combination of a co-op style agreement between your local ISP and your blog, of which they might host, etc…

    The *HOPE* is to turn the attention back towards the reality side of virtual… It's easy to spoof and scam in the virtual world… It's a bit harder to spoof and scam when your a physical location that people visit in physical person, instead of virtual person. :)

    We seem to have some common ideals, which is why I'm giving you the heads up with all of this… You've got a GREAT blog, and overall outlook/writing style that I have come to appreciate over the last week and half to two weeks. If nothing else, keep up the fantastic blogging! :D

    BTW… most of the above is un-announced, although I haven't been shy in letting people know on a person-to-person basis. It's not really ready to blog about, but I would certainly LOVE to hear about how you think we can make these projects into something truly useful, as given the community focus to all of this, it makes sense to let the community call the shots from the beginning…

    My email address is attached… Please feel free to contact me directly with any comments, suggestions, etc…

    Cheers :)

  • http://xmlhacker.com M. David Peterson

    Hmmm… Guess I need to check where I have Webtop.name pointed to at the moment… seems to be serving up a mix and match of the extf.net/GlobalClip site… Ooops! :D

  • http://jasonkolb.typepad.com/weblog/2006/05/review_pageflak.html JasonKolb.com

    Review: PageFlakes (Web Desktop)

    I posted a while back complaining about the lack of quality Web desktops despite the fact that they’re multiplying like rabbits. On the advice of one of their employees, I’ve been using PageFlakes for the past few days. Overall it’s